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gee4
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« on: July 23, 2009, 08:08:10 am »

I know some of you have posted on this and similar topics before but just wondered what you make of this.

Boss is due back to the office next week after being on holiday for 3 and a half weeks.  One of his direct reports asked me yesterday when he was back and I confirmed it was Monday.  He then proceeded to ask me if my boss knew he had an interview in his diary one day next week.  I checked the date in question and I confirmed the entry was in his diary.

However I was a little shocked.  Because of the wording, I understood it was an interview panel he was involved in, and not an actual interview. On reading it again, I realised the direct report was right.

Question is with all the reshuffling and re-organisation that has been going on, should I be unduly worried where this will leave me.  Two other chief engineers are due to retire this year so they may be farming out the remainder to other vacancies within the company.  

It is rather worrying after being through redundancy and then struggling to find a job and ending up with with this one.  I'm not even sure I could ask my boss about it as he isn't that approachable.
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2009, 08:28:32 am »

I may, IF the right time and situation came up where it is comfortable to.  If not, I would just see how things play out.
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2009, 10:52:46 am »

Interesting, particularly since the "direct report" asked you about this.  I presume that "direct report" is a subordinate and wonder why such a person would question what was in their manager's diary if it didn't affect them directly. 

Well, I daresay that all will be made clear in due course, Gee, and you just have to sit tight. 

Hope it all works out well in your favour.

Best wishes,

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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2009, 11:02:14 am »

Rose I did wonder that too...unless the direct report is on the panel.  Would be just my luck to lose another job or be shifted elsewhere.
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2009, 02:31:13 pm »

Mmmm now a second person has mentioned the "interview" so it's obviously common knowledge.  What was interesting about that chat was the comment...."it will be interesting to see if you go with him".  So minds are also working overtime in this regard and of course I'm oblivious to the whole thing.

I don't think I could go through any more changes here but what would be interesting to know is, if someone at a certain status gets promoted, does their PA get promoted also?  If my boss was offered this role, his job would be further up the pecking order so do that apply to the PA who works for him?  (Just curious).

As I thought the 2 others due to retire will be parked in situ until their retirement happens but it seems changes are afoot and happening fast.
 
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2009, 05:29:06 pm »

I would start listening to the grapevine a lot more closely, but I don't think I would approach the boss about it, especially if you don't really have that type of relationship with him.
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2009, 05:31:30 pm »

Gee

How about asking if there is anything he needs that you can help him with for the interview (in a very sneaky sort of way finding out what it is about, looking good and efficient plus not directly saying you know anything about what others may or may not be saying behind his back!

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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2009, 06:43:41 pm »

Thanks all for your replies, but Marie is right.  Given I am only there a short time and not having a close relationship, it would be hard to approach him about this.

The fact that his diary entry on the subject was "X" Presentations and not "X" Interviews makes me think he didn't want me to know.  I'm not sure if those that mentioned it were informing me subtly, or if they were trying to find out if I already knew but either way it's out of the bag.

I think I would prefer his hand to be forced ie. let him come to me if he has something to tell me or if changes are afoot.  I'm still very new to the company and how they operate.  I just wondered if the situation arose where I had no choice but to move with him to his new role, where would that leave me as regards my progress and development?  I would like more varied work to keep me busy but not sure I want the added responsibility that he is going to take on.
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2009, 03:29:18 am »

Gee

This would be a great opportunity to learn and grow.  I went through this 2 yrs ago, when my boss changed from one organization to another, completely different area from where my background is /was.  After he told me I was going with him, i embraced the changes and have learned everything I can about this side of the business and continue to do so.  i have partnered with him and he has grown the business teremendously even i these tough economic times.  The more you learn, the more valuable you are and your name stays off the "list".  however, those that are  negative and sit around waiting to be told what to do, instead of taking the initiative to do it, get put right on the top of the list in our organization.  I have rounded my resume of skills by embracing change and learning what I can during the time to add value.  Think positive.
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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2009, 07:54:43 am »

While you may be right on some level Peaches, don't forget this would not be my choice.  I have been through a lot and whilst I want stability it seems in here things change every 3 months or so.  If my boss chooses to apply and accept another role that is his choice but it's not necessarily mine ie.  I haven't applied for a new role or to work in another department.

I shall wait and see what the outcome is.  It's very unsettling given all I have been through of late.
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2009, 02:41:49 pm »

Not the easiest of times for you, Gee - my sympathies.  What an awful thing for you to find out in such a roundabout way - I wonder at the motives of his colleagues, although I'm sure they're not "sinister".

I agree that, not having the closest of relationships with your boss, it would be difficult to approach him about it.  Perhaps just a subtle "hope it goes well" as he goes out the door??

Sit tight, and see how it plays out.  Good thoughts winging their way to you.
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2009, 08:40:14 am »

Update...

- Direct Report 1 has also been shortlisted for interview
- Direct Report 2 knew DR 1 had been shortlisted AND that my boss had been too - common knowledege apparently (except for me)

Boss has returned from holiday but has cancelled travel for this week, has freed up his diary today, and is on holiday tomorrow to prepare for his interview, I presume.

I am so bored I cannot tell you and thought I might have been busier this week since boss was back.  Now it will be a waiting game to hear the outcome of the interviews later this week.  I along with a few others, think my boss could be a clear favourite.   Undecided
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2009, 10:12:28 am »

Well, one way or t'other, you'll hear something soon.   It's sad that your boss didn't feel able to tell you - regardless of how long you've worked for him you're in a privileged position and he should know that you can be trusted with such confidential information - and esp. as other people within the company were privvy to it.

Still sending good luck.
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2009, 12:22:13 pm »

gee, in all honesty, I would be a lot less worried about what will be happening (or not happening) with your boss and a lot more concerned about that fact that you are not plugged into the office grapevine. I know that you feel strongly about  not gossiping in the office (and I agree with you in not wanting that), but the reality is that every employee and particularly every administrative professional needs to be plugged into the office grapevine. Studies show that it is accurate about 75-95% of the time.

It's important that you find a way to participate in this so that you are more aware of "common knowledge". This will take effort and outreach on your part, but I think it's important to your career to develop that skill.

I am not suggesting that you should share gossip or that you need to pass on rumors yourself. I am however suggesting that you need to get on the "Party line" (old fashioned term with the telephone where everyone could listen to someone's phone calls).
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2009, 02:07:45 pm »

I am actually more concerned about what will be happening to me Marie, not necessarily my boss.  If he gets this job it will impact on me.

Like I said there is no admin network here, secretaries are all very clicky and if information is not readily shared I am not in a position to somehow join the "office grapevine".

To be honest it's hard to know who to trust and who not to, if you get me.
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