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Jennika, that happened in the previous building I was in. Now I am located next to stores/goods inward, we are told to get the copy paper ourselves. I usually lift a couple of reams but some of the men have the wit to carry a full box. Obviously some weren't born with that wit, or they were, but don't think it's their responsibility. Must remember that next time they want help with Powerpoint, Excel, Word etc....  |
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Our mail services dept. carry our paper and stack it at the copier. As far as carrying the boxes, they use a cart. Safety and preventing injuries are a number 1 priority at our company. I have been known to commandeer one of the guys to help with heavy lifting or climbing under the conference table to plug in the projector. They never say no and are always willing to lend a hand.
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 Peaches, I should be so lucky. I strongly believe, in this job, that if I want something done properly I do it myself. That includes moving heavy boxes/objects, delivering papers to Counsel etc etc! I wish someone could save me from the inept! (sorry, paralegal I work with has been presented with a 1.4mtr high stack of filing (only 1 months worth!) and I am spitting mad because they promised that it had all been done!
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My stationery cupboard is more or less like a sweet shop...everything you could think of in all colours. This morning though someone went to get a pen. Not a big deal, I hear you say. However sadly, lo and behold, my mistake, there were no blue ones. What?! Take a flippin black one and be thankful you have a job to come to every day to use it!! Is there something wrong with these numpties or is nothing ever good enough? The person in question has now asked around the whole office for a blue pen. It's funny cos everyone is offering him black...  |
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I can actually relate to this person so not sure what that says about me........ I hate writing in black ink - always prefer to use blue. For some strange reason my writing is better in blue than black - illogical? - maybe, but nice to know there is more than one of us out there  |
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gee4
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Well for years I used blue then was told I should be using black.
I don't really understand why people are so ungrateful. A company provides you with tools to do your job, why question what colour it is?
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On official forms you are usually required to complete them in black ink but I believe this is because black ink photocopies more clearly than other colours.
Me wanting to write in blue ink is just something I personally like to do if given the choice.
Not sure why you deem this chap wanting a certain colour pen as being ungrateful - he may have had a good reason for needing a blue ink pen.
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He's awkward. If I had blue pens he would have wanted black. He's like this daily.
The only reason he wanted blue is because he like it nothing more...I asked him. If he knew what standing in a dole queue was like, it wouldn't matter what colour of ink he was provided with.
Life is too short to be worrying about pens and ink when there's so much else going on in the world.
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officepa
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He is like me then, simply likes to write in blue - just a little harmless foible - Hope he found one
A quiet thought - if life is too short to worry about pens and ink when there is so much else going on in the world, why take time to post about what you see as this chap's daily awkwardness? Ridiculing him by calling him a numptie is unkind, who knows what is going on in his personal world that causes him to act like this.
Perhaps we should all let the small things go unmentioned and concentrate on the bigger things that we can change that is wrong in the (our) world.
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Exactly, so write with a pen that is available and don't be selfish enough to ask for something else!
I post for the same reasons others post Cathy.
It's tiresome on a daily basis having to listen to selfish individuals whine and whine about petty things, things they get paid to do but yet cannot make decisions. I feel sorry for their wives!
On Monday this guy asked me to book flights, we discussed the options, he mulled it over. He came back later and asked me to book them, I asked if he was sure, he said yes go ahead.
On Tuesday morning he asked me if I had booked the flights. I looked at him and said, you know I did. He then said oh. I asked what the problem was and he said he was trying not to go.
For me that is a complete waste of my time and he knows it. It's as if the flight times don't match what he wants and he's practically asking me to charter a flight for him.
I get asked the same questions every week and yet they all look blankly at me when I give them the same answers. Anyone who travels knows that timetables only change in March and Sept and even then, flights only change by a few mins, not hours.
You want to come and work here - you have no idea how they operate.
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Know the feeling well, gee - I have the scars too!. They never realise that indecision costs money in business and sometimes the effect they are after is just not worth the effort of preventing urgent matters being dealt with in a timely manner. Just remember, we may find it hard to work with the numpties in the office, but it is near impossible to get rid of the bodies!  |
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officepa
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Pretty certain I do know how your people operate - it has been the same everywhere I have worked, none more so than where I am now.
Doubt if anyone works somewhere where such daily occurances do not happen. I work with some of the most academic people around yet have trouble dealing with day to day issues - that is just their way and why I and my colleagues work with them with understanding and a sense of humour to get work done.
Most days someone wants to tear their hair out in my office but you need to keep things in perspective and keep a sense of humour. Yes, their actions do 'waste our time' on occasions but I doubt there is anyone out there who is perfect - or is there?
Yes, it would be great to work somewhere where everything ran like clockwork with no silly questions, people changing their mind once bookings have been made, can't make their minds up, going to the wrong restaurant and then you having to arrange a taxi to whiz them across to another one, those who arrive at the airport and find they have left their passport at home, - the list is endless but we are professionals who just sort these problems out quietly and efficiently.
Yes, it is frustrating to have to deal with such things on a daily basis but that is office life is it not?
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Okay this is travel and not pens (I actually buy my own of those so I can have whatever colour I like and in my world of brainstorms, financial reconciliation and project plans coloured pens are important) but turning this the other way: I recently wanted train tickets and a hotel booked. The first secretary told me "I don't do trains" (still trying to work out what she do do!) The second one told me "oh no I don't book that stuff talk to X" X said "we can't book that hotel it is an Internet price and the travel agents don't do those" "oh and you can have a warrant for the train" NOW JUST a ******* MINUTE! - I want particular trains booked because they have to connect with my bus service AND booking those trains is half the price of the warrant
- The very same travel agents have booked those internet hotels for me for four years in my previous job AND since my employer takes two months to reimburse expenses why should I fork out for it.
It took me half a day of my time to sort this travel out so that a secretary could tell the travel agent ... I find myself asking why does the secretary need to be involved if I have to do 95% of the work myself? It cuts both ways ... |
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gee4
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Pens, travel, whatever... it all boils down to the same thing...ditherers and time wasters.
If I didn't do my job as well as I did, I would be fired, no question about it. However I cannot be responsible if individuals are unsure which flight they want or turn up at the wrong restaurant - how on earth do they manage in their personal lives? How difficult is it to function on a daily basis like a human being should?
I work in admin, I'm not a nurse, nor anyone's mother. I think you have to draw the line at a certain point and make people think for themselves. After all, I'm supposed to be pro-active and solve problems, so why do these people make it even more difficult.
It's like someone saying ooh I've put on 2 pounds. Starvation and poverty are rife throughout the world. Having pens and food would be like winning the lottery to some people, yet others who have all that, moan about it.
I have no time for those who cannot see how well off they actually are.
I have no problem ordering individual requests for stationery that allows someone to do their job ie. coloured pens or highlighters, but when it comes down to the fact that they just want a blue pen for no reason other than ooh that’s what they want, I call that petty and selfish. I could understand if there were no pens in the cupboard but considering the way it was asked and that it was almost unreasonable there was only black, I think some people need to grow up.
A child would be told the very same thing, so why not an adult?
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Mmmm, as a PA/admin, call it what you will, why would anyone working in these positions think themselves above sorting out situations that others they work for have got themselves into?
If my boss rings and says, "help, I'm at the wrong restaurant" would I say "so, what do you want me to do about it?" - of course not, I would resolve the problem - it is part of my job, one of the reasons he pays me - to ensure his life runs smoothly. If he messes up why would I critisize him? He will make mistakes as we all do. This does not make me his mother or his nurse. It means as his PA I am doing my job. He does not blame me for his mistakes but does expect my help in putting him right.
He did not deliberately go to the wrong place, a moments lapse of concentration perhaps therefore he did not, in this case, make things difficult for me, it was just one of those silly things that happen. I take it in my stride, I might tut to myself or raise my eyes to the sky but hey, stuff happens, just deal with it without treating it like it is a major problem.
Yes, there will always be people at work who we think of as ditherers or who we feel are being petty over certain things but nobody is perfect. Anyone who claims they are, are just fooling themselves.
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