Gee4 thanks for your response. I could say that, but (big but) sometime I need to be able to tune into the grape vine so to speak, and I do not want to close that door. So I would like to keep a low key answer.

We are going through a re-org at work, and I may end up working some where else, I was asked not to share this information with anyone, so I have not but I do not feel good about lying when someone asks me if I had heard anything.  Last week some one called me and knew about this possible change. Her boss told her it was not a done deal yet, but she thought it was and wantd to tell me she was happy about it. Anyway this is still not out in the open yet or even a done deal yet but, when and if it becomes one how do I reply to people who may ask me if I knew about this all a long and how come I did not tell them, or if they ask when did I know about this. Thanks Rowan

Thank you everyone. I have to say that even though it has been very chilly in my office I do feel better about letting my boss know what was going on, and not feeling like a door mat, (I hardly ever am the greasy wheel so to speak) Now though I am trying to mend fences but am getting no responce. I try to make chit chat and only get direct replies to my comments, like boy is it hot out, then I just hear Yup, or Yes it is. I would like to think time will heal this. Who knows, my co worker is not speaking to me. Well so is life I will just keep sending out postive signals. Thanks everyone for hearing about it. Office Politicks are tough.

I do understand everyones coments,  and do need to state that, I would normaly not have said anything, but big but I am sick and tired of others who know how my boss feels about the overtime take advantage of getting it just because they report to someone else.  We are a Union shop and OT is suppose to be given fairly to people in the same work area, or type of job. Her boss also takes advantage of it by leaving early and so on.
I felt that they,  1. were trying to pull a fast one on my boss, and 2. that it is not fair since I could use OT and have the work to do  if I was granted it. This time I guess I was just feed up being the quite one who is allways keeping my mouth shut.  So now I am wondering do I just act like nothing has happend or talk to my boss about it. Thanks for everyones input it does help me to look at thinkgs from anothers view point.

Hi everyone. I could use some words of wisdom.
We have a new person in my office(only 6 months there), she reports to a semi new boss. My boss is his boss.She mentioned to me that she worked some OT the other day, and told myself and another co worker who helped to hire her that she was going to see about getting Comp time for it. She said she was going to talk to her boss when he got back in the office from a meeting.  The co worker said yes you should. Her boss called and said he would not make it back before she left for the day. she leaves later than I do.  I was going to mention to her and her boss when she brought it up that my boss did not want us doing over time and that I was going to ask if he has changed his policy. Well since her boss was not coming in before we left, I e mailed my boss who is out of state at a confer. I stated what was his policy on clerical doing OT. That this person and I had a conversation on it and that she had to work late once. Now mind you the co worker and the newbie both new that my boss would not ok OT for me in the past.  My boss replied to my e mail and cc the newbie & her boss stating no OT and why was she having to do it. I was out of work the day the reply came in. When I came to work I was getting the cold shoulder from her and her boss, she works across from me and her boss works near us both. He then sent an e mail to my boss and me cc her stating why he felt it was justified. My boss if he replied to him did not cc me. To make a long story short it is very COLD IN MY OFFICE now, she will only talk to me if I ask her a question with very short answers. Should I send another e mail stating I notice the tense atmosphere in the office and that I sent the e mail to my boss because he is my direct report and that I wanted to know what the policy was since I would like to do OT too, and that I  just want the whole OT to be fairly distributed, cc all the same people. Or should I just let it drop and wait to talk to my boss letting him know that by him cc them that it caused stress in the office.

Ok my boss and his wife are going out of the state for their eldest sons wedding. Am I expected or should I give him a wedding gift. Now mind you bosie is not a bad sort, but he is a bit tight, when it comes to others. Also bosses day is Oct 16 here in the states, he does not give me a gift or lunch for Professional Admin. Day should I give him one even though he will not be here, He is going out of the state as I mentioned above.

Need help, Please. Thanks, Rowan

I thought it was bad enough taking me  1 hour each way, but then some of you have longer than that, so now I do not feel so bad. I try to listen to books on tape when I can get them, it makes the drive go by much faster. Winter is tough, lots of snow.
Rowan

I agree with Queenbean, I try to sound willing, while pointing them in anothers direction, but allso saying that if they do not find someone else come back to me and we can see what can be done. So in a way this is not really a no answer.
Rowan

G: I will keep my fingers crossed for you. I am not sure I understand what you folks mean by they do not pay you for redundancy, or what statutory redundancy is. I am glad you have an interview set up. I will keep sending you postive energy.
Rowan

I am an Administrative Assistant, working in the Public Sector. My pay grade used to be hirer than the gals in our other districts, their bosses reported to mine who is a director. They were up graded so now we are all the same pay grade. My problem is that most of them come to me with questions on things that my boss passes down to their bosses or if they have questions regarding work they may be doing for me/my boss. And some times their bosses come to me with questions All because I work for their big boss. I do not supervise them. I also meet with the other Admins on a quarterly bases to realy any changes down the pike, I listen to their problems take thing back to my boss that they may want me to.  My boss likes that I have these meeting so that everyone is on the same page so on. I want to type something up that states I do this type of  work because it is not the type of work that you see result in black and white, much of what I do it like this. I am due for an evaluation and would like this noted, and I feel I should put it in print, my question is how do I make this sound professional. I am thinking I should give this to my boss before the evaluation so he takes these things under consideration. Please excuse the spelling or grammer of this post, (no spell checker) Any sugestions would be welcome.

I am so sick of being treated like a second class citizen, because I am a Secretary, Administrative Assistant.  No respect, and if you do get it it is on a sub level. Try and go for promotions/upgrades and get told we don't have the money for that, or the underlying thought is that I do not want to pay more for a Secretary then a non, clerical position, Even though I do have a 4 year college degree.  Then when I try to do my job professionaly and let people know when asked that they are formating a letter or memo wrong, I get scoffed at or told o it does not matter, I am the boss or the one putting the letter together so it can go anyway I want. I feel like saying then don't ask me if you do not want to know how to do it right!
On top of that I here from other people in the sweetest way, that they just Do Not want to be somones Secretary, nothing against you but I have gone pass that in my life and want to do more, and make more money!  Like I do not want to make more money, really!  I am sorry just need to vent, sick of seeing others around me make more money have more resepct because they are NOT a Secretary, even though I truly like what I do.

Ok, I knew with the holiday and all his meetings I would not get to talk to him, so I sent him an email last week on Dec. 19. Pretty much asking him in the insightful manner you sugested. Well he chose not to reply, he has his e-mail set up where you can preview it and not open it. That would be all he needed to view the question.  So how do I take it that he chose not to reply, he has done this before to me and I confronted him. I do not think that is a good thing to do right now he has been uptight. Should I just keep my eyes open for other posting of a job, I work for the State Government so we post jobs and would need him for a reference, plus politics being what they are it gets around wether your a good Administrative Assistant or not, and I am trying to Break Out of the clerical role and move up since I have gotten my degree, without a lot of success.  I could use some advice. Thanks

Thanks Marie, this has been the week from he-- no time to talk to him today he has been on the road all day. He just got back and is dealing with internal problems, I leave in half an hour. I hope tomorrow he will have time. I was strugling on how to say it but your words are great thanks so much. I will let you know what happens. Its not that I want to supervise now but this course would be helpful when/ if something comes open.

Thanks for all the sugestions, I was going to talk to him today but he has been in meetings all day, should I try and squeeze it in or wait for another day when he is less stressed?   He will be out of the office all day tomorrow and all morning the next day.  
Should I wait and bring it up another time? does it matter when I bring it up. Another note I am sure he has some input in me going so I do not think he is pushing for me to attend.

Ok I am a little up set right now. This is my second time requesting to go to a supervisory training course.  My boss just told me that he got a call from HR and that the class is full, he had to send two of his other supervisors and that there is over 20 people attending. It is for supervisors and folks that may want to be supervisor. Of course I was upset and said, so When will I be able to go, he joked and said before you retire, that these other people had to go and I said I understand. This was a very quick conversation in the hall. But I am PO there have been people who have went and they did not supervise and one has already taken a new job with another department.
I don't know what to make of this I like my job and boss but feel like he does not think it is important for me to attend. Should I look for another job or just wait it out?